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		<title>By: Geno</title>
		<link>http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/28/shopathomecom-or-how-affiliate-marketing-gets-hurt/comment-page-1/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Geno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found them in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/02/05/newest-am-navigator-client-scrubs-beyond/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scrubs &amp; Beyond affiliate program&lt;/a&gt;, and booted them out. Bye-bye, ShopAtHome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found them in the <a href="http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/02/05/newest-am-navigator-client-scrubs-beyond/" rel="nofollow">Scrubs &#038; Beyond affiliate program</a>, and booted them out. Bye-bye, ShopAtHome!</p>
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		<title>By: Raphael</title>
		<link>http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/28/shopathomecom-or-how-affiliate-marketing-gets-hurt/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Geno very helpful, thanks for all the details &amp; info.

Keep up the good work.

Raphael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Geno very helpful, thanks for all the details &amp; info.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Raphael</p>
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		<title>By: Geno</title>
		<link>http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/28/shopathomecom-or-how-affiliate-marketing-gets-hurt/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Geno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;msladybug&lt;/strong&gt;,

Thank you for taking time to comment.

You know, I&#039;ve been interviewing people in our industry on the problems of present-day affiliate marketing, and among the top 3 problems &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; of them have pointed out: (i) unethical affiliates (exact phrase used: &quot;parasites and cookie overwriters&quot;), (ii) lack of knowledge on the merchants&#039; part, and (iii) lack of ethics on the part of select affiliate networks (those that take advantage of the merchant&#039;s ignorance, and allow for unethical affiliates to operate within the merchant&#039;s affiliate programs). My personal views match those of the interviewees with only one difference -- that of prioritization of problems to deal with. Just as yourself, I believe that the first priority should be given to &lt;strong&gt;education&lt;/strong&gt; -- education of merchants, and affiliates -- as only educated people can discern between the right and wrong, the ethical and the unethical; and only educated affiliate marketers can make weighted decisions based on facts.

Once again, thank you for your comment.

Geno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>msladybug</strong>,</p>
<p>Thank you for taking time to comment.</p>
<p>You know, I&#8217;ve been interviewing people in our industry on the problems of present-day affiliate marketing, and among the top 3 problems <i>all</i> of them have pointed out: (i) unethical affiliates (exact phrase used: &#8220;parasites and cookie overwriters&#8221;), (ii) lack of knowledge on the merchants&#8217; part, and (iii) lack of ethics on the part of select affiliate networks (those that take advantage of the merchant&#8217;s ignorance, and allow for unethical affiliates to operate within the merchant&#8217;s affiliate programs). My personal views match those of the interviewees with only one difference &#8212; that of prioritization of problems to deal with. Just as yourself, I believe that the first priority should be given to <strong>education</strong> &#8212; education of merchants, and affiliates &#8212; as only educated people can discern between the right and wrong, the ethical and the unethical; and only educated affiliate marketers can make weighted decisions based on facts.</p>
<p>Once again, thank you for your comment.</p>
<p>Geno</p>
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		<title>By: msladybug</title>
		<link>http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/28/shopathomecom-or-how-affiliate-marketing-gets-hurt/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>msladybug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Geno. Your experience and knowledge in this industry can reach so many people, thanks for taking the time to post such informative and detailed messages. I am also working with AffiliateTrust.org trying to make a difference in this industry. Education is key for affiliates, merchants and even Affiliate Managers. Unfortunately, the quick buck makes things look attractive only to find out in the long run it came at a very high price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, Geno. Your experience and knowledge in this industry can reach so many people, thanks for taking the time to post such informative and detailed messages. I am also working with AffiliateTrust.org trying to make a difference in this industry. Education is key for affiliates, merchants and even Affiliate Managers. Unfortunately, the quick buck makes things look attractive only to find out in the long run it came at a very high price.</p>
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		<title>By: Geno</title>
		<link>http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/28/shopathomecom-or-how-affiliate-marketing-gets-hurt/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Geno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Karen,&lt;/strong&gt;

Great points.

I agree on the benefits of manual approval of affiliate applications. It &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; get &quot;time consuming&quot; but it will save you from major affiliate marketing disasters (including the ones that can be brought to you by such players as ShopAtHome.com, OneCause.com, etc)

Geno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Karen,</strong></p>
<p>Great points.</p>
<p>I agree on the benefits of manual approval of affiliate applications. It <i>can</i> get &#8220;time consuming&#8221; but it will save you from major affiliate marketing disasters (including the ones that can be brought to you by such players as ShopAtHome.com, OneCause.com, etc)</p>
<p>Geno</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Garcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post Geno! Parasitic affiliates are an ongoing problem in many affiliate programs simply because BHOs are so widely available and the manager is under incredible internal pressure to make the channel produce. I expect in this economy that we will start to see a much wider use of these &quot;earn your cash back&quot; types of toolbars and unfortunately, many merchants may choose to turn to affiliates who offer them simply to boost numbers temporarily. It&#039;s important for a manager to stay on top of policing and educate themselves well on the issue so they can properly respond when upper management asks &quot;why aren&#039;t we working with so-and-so&quot;.

I definitely agree that networks can do a &lt;em&gt;far&lt;/em&gt; better job of pre-screening affiliates and providing full disclosure of contact information, but you should never, ever rely on any network to handle your approvals, even one that keeps a fairly clean house. Essentially, you&#039;re hiring a sales team and you need to know who you are working with and the only way to do that is to process applications manually. Time consuming, certainly, but the rewards are far greater down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post Geno! Parasitic affiliates are an ongoing problem in many affiliate programs simply because BHOs are so widely available and the manager is under incredible internal pressure to make the channel produce. I expect in this economy that we will start to see a much wider use of these &#8220;earn your cash back&#8221; types of toolbars and unfortunately, many merchants may choose to turn to affiliates who offer them simply to boost numbers temporarily. It&#8217;s important for a manager to stay on top of policing and educate themselves well on the issue so they can properly respond when upper management asks &#8220;why aren&#8217;t we working with so-and-so&#8221;.</p>
<p>I definitely agree that networks can do a <em>far</em> better job of pre-screening affiliates and providing full disclosure of contact information, but you should never, ever rely on any network to handle your approvals, even one that keeps a fairly clean house. Essentially, you&#8217;re hiring a sales team and you need to know who you are working with and the only way to do that is to process applications manually. Time consuming, certainly, but the rewards are far greater down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Geno</title>
		<link>http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/28/shopathomecom-or-how-affiliate-marketing-gets-hurt/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Geno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kellie Stevens of AffiliateFairPlay.com has brought up an important point in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.revenews.com/kelliestevens/putting-the-genie-back-into-the-bottle/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;her today&#039;s ReveNews post&lt;/a&gt;. She said that the problem is not with adware as such, but with &quot;how adware is allowed to behave in the affiliate marketing channel&quot; (read: allowed by the affiliate networks that are getting a cut in form of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/22/affiliate-networks-opm-companies-transaction-fees-performance-bonuses/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;transaction fee&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt; affiliate transaction, clean or dirty). She stated that it is important to understand that adware &quot;isnâ€™t inherently good or bad.&quot; What &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; bad though, is &quot;the manner in which many adware applications generate revenue in the affiliate marketing channel,&quot; and I have described this manner above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kellie Stevens of AffiliateFairPlay.com has brought up an important point in <a href="http://www.revenews.com/kelliestevens/putting-the-genie-back-into-the-bottle/" rel="nofollow">her today&#8217;s ReveNews post</a>. She said that the problem is not with adware as such, but with &#8220;how adware is allowed to behave in the affiliate marketing channel&#8221; (read: allowed by the affiliate networks that are getting a cut in form of the <a href="http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/22/affiliate-networks-opm-companies-transaction-fees-performance-bonuses/" rel="nofollow">transaction fee</a> of <i>every</i> affiliate transaction, clean or dirty). She stated that it is important to understand that adware &#8220;isnâ€™t inherently good or bad.&#8221; What <i>is</i> bad though, is &#8220;the manner in which many adware applications generate revenue in the affiliate marketing channel,&#8221; and I have described this manner above.</p>
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		<title>By: Geno</title>
		<link>http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/28/shopathomecom-or-how-affiliate-marketing-gets-hurt/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Geno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;John&lt;/strong&gt;

I would review them all in the light of the toolbar technology. Any affiliate that has a toolbar should have the toolbar tested by the affiliate manager (ideally, &lt;i&gt;prior&lt;/i&gt; to accepting them into the affiliate program). If the toolbar intrudes with the end-user&#039;s shopping behavior, making him/her click the toolbar offers (most frequently used ones are those of cashback, and donations to charitable or scholarship organizations), or even forcing a click, thereby overwriting the cookie of an affiliate who at that moment is doing the pre-sale job, the affiliate should not be accepted into the affiliate program.

Geno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>John</strong></p>
<p>I would review them all in the light of the toolbar technology. Any affiliate that has a toolbar should have the toolbar tested by the affiliate manager (ideally, <i>prior</i> to accepting them into the affiliate program). If the toolbar intrudes with the end-user&#8217;s shopping behavior, making him/her click the toolbar offers (most frequently used ones are those of cashback, and donations to charitable or scholarship organizations), or even forcing a click, thereby overwriting the cookie of an affiliate who at that moment is doing the pre-sale job, the affiliate should not be accepted into the affiliate program.</p>
<p>Geno</p>
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		<title>By: John Jupp</title>
		<link>http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/28/shopathomecom-or-how-affiliate-marketing-gets-hurt/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jupp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shopathome.com is still a highly active affiliate on CJ.

I shall commission a review of affiliates registered with programs under our management.  Feel free to send me a list of potential offenders and the reasons for their inclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shopathome.com is still a highly active affiliate on CJ.</p>
<p>I shall commission a review of affiliates registered with programs under our management.  Feel free to send me a list of potential offenders and the reasons for their inclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Geno</title>
		<link>http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/28/shopathomecom-or-how-affiliate-marketing-gets-hurt/comment-page-1/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Geno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Convergence&lt;/strong&gt;, 

Thank you, Denis. The more of us write (and talk) about this -- the sooner the changes will come.

In their recent &quot;Leadership the Outward Bound Way&quot; volume, Raynolds, Carter &amp; Chatfield argued that the process of initiating change starts from &quot;creating readiness&quot; for the change. This readiness for change is created by (a) instilling &quot;a sense of need and urgency,&quot; followed by (b) &quot;building confidence,&quot; and (c) &quot;fostering a culture that seeks continuous improvement.&quot; Speaking of creating a sense of urgency, these researchers explain that it is important to &quot;communicate the need for change and paint a picture of the new vision,&quot; thereby &quot;raising the urgency level,&quot; and cultivating a desire for change (p. 278). In case with the adware/spyware affiliates problem, it is essential to create a sense of urgency among merchants that are being effected by the problem -- often not even knowing about it. Once the sense of urgency is created, the merchants will be ready for the next steps: ceasing their partnerships with ShopAtHome.com and other unethical affiliates, filing relevant complaints with the affiliate networks, and rebuilding their affiliates programs through good affiliates.

As I have mentioned &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/19/speak-passionately-about-things-that-matter/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;elsewhere&lt;/a&gt;, I applaud what you are doing at AffiliateTrust.com. Keep up the good work too! Let&#039;s create the sense of urgency about this very &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; problem!

Geno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Convergence</strong>, </p>
<p>Thank you, Denis. The more of us write (and talk) about this &#8212; the sooner the changes will come.</p>
<p>In their recent &#8220;Leadership the Outward Bound Way&#8221; volume, Raynolds, Carter &#038; Chatfield argued that the process of initiating change starts from &#8220;creating readiness&#8221; for the change. This readiness for change is created by (a) instilling &#8220;a sense of need and urgency,&#8221; followed by (b) &#8220;building confidence,&#8221; and (c) &#8220;fostering a culture that seeks continuous improvement.&#8221; Speaking of creating a sense of urgency, these researchers explain that it is important to &#8220;communicate the need for change and paint a picture of the new vision,&#8221; thereby &#8220;raising the urgency level,&#8221; and cultivating a desire for change (p. 278). In case with the adware/spyware affiliates problem, it is essential to create a sense of urgency among merchants that are being effected by the problem &#8212; often not even knowing about it. Once the sense of urgency is created, the merchants will be ready for the next steps: ceasing their partnerships with ShopAtHome.com and other unethical affiliates, filing relevant complaints with the affiliate networks, and rebuilding their affiliates programs through good affiliates.</p>
<p>As I have mentioned <a href="http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/01/19/speak-passionately-about-things-that-matter/#comments" rel="nofollow">elsewhere</a>, I applaud what you are doing at AffiliateTrust.com. Keep up the good work too! Let&#8217;s create the sense of urgency about this very <i>real</i> problem!</p>
<p>Geno</p>
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