Comments on: Max Loren Designer Auctions – Clever or Cruel? http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/12/02/max-loren-designer-auctions-clever-or-cruel/ Geno talks about affiliate marketing, leadership, etc Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:14:20 +0000 hourly 1 By: JD http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/12/02/max-loren-designer-auctions-clever-or-cruel/comment-page-1/#comment-8388 JD Fri, 22 Oct 2010 18:17:10 +0000 http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/?p=4860#comment-8388 Yes, I am a lawyer. I haven't spent too much time digging. Yes, I am a lawyer. I haven’t spent too much time digging.

]]> By: Lynsey http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/12/02/max-loren-designer-auctions-clever-or-cruel/comment-page-1/#comment-7914 Lynsey Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:45:12 +0000 http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/?p=4860#comment-7914 I have won items on auctions like this. Of course they make a profit or they wouldn't be in business. Every site that I work with clearly explains the rules, prices, concept, and return policy, as did Max Loren. Yeah, it's a gambling game, but come on people. Read about what you are doing before you do it. If you read the How it Works, didn't win, and complain about it, don't be a sore loser. You want a deal, you have to put in the time and effort. There probably are some sites that have insiders bidding on items because they have no business ethics. That's why you should check bbb.org and find out which sites are accredited and which aren't. Yeah you could play the lotto or hit up Vegas, but your odds are better on legit penny auction sites. I have won items on auctions like this. Of course they make a profit or they wouldn’t be in business. Every site that I work with clearly explains the rules, prices, concept, and return policy, as did Max Loren. Yeah, it’s a gambling game, but come on people. Read about what you are doing before you do it. If you read the How it Works, didn’t win, and complain about it, don’t be a sore loser. You want a deal, you have to put in the time and effort. There probably are some sites that have insiders bidding on items because they have no business ethics. That’s why you should check bbb.org and find out which sites are accredited and which aren’t. Yeah you could play the lotto or hit up Vegas, but your odds are better on legit penny auction sites.

]]> By: Geno http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/12/02/max-loren-designer-auctions-clever-or-cruel/comment-page-1/#comment-7206 Geno Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:38:17 +0000 http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/?p=4860#comment-7206 I have no clue, <b>J</b>. Judging by your email address it appears that you're a lawyer. Would love to hear from you once you've had a chance to dig into this. I have no clue, J.

Judging by your email address it appears that you’re a lawyer. Would love to hear from you once you’ve had a chance to dig into this.

]]> By: JD http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/12/02/max-loren-designer-auctions-clever-or-cruel/comment-page-1/#comment-7205 JD Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:48:55 +0000 http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/?p=4860#comment-7205 Did they file for bankruptcy? Do you have any idea where they were incorporated? I bought bids a few days before the site disappeared and never got to use them. Did they file for bankruptcy? Do you have any idea where they were incorporated? I bought bids a few days before the site disappeared and never got to use them.

]]> By: Geno http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/12/02/max-loren-designer-auctions-clever-or-cruel/comment-page-1/#comment-6859 Geno Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:21:26 +0000 http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/?p=4860#comment-6859 Wow. Seems like this one hasn't lived too long after the above post. Last update in their Twitter feed dates Dec 18th, 2009, and the website is inaccessible. Maybe, after all, the whole setup was more cruel than clever. Wow. Seems like this one hasn’t lived too long after the above post. Last update in their Twitter feed dates Dec 18th, 2009, and the website is inaccessible. Maybe, after all, the whole setup was more cruel than clever.

]]> By: Cheryl http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/12/02/max-loren-designer-auctions-clever-or-cruel/comment-page-1/#comment-5360 Cheryl Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:22:00 +0000 http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/?p=4860#comment-5360 Max Loren has been down since the first of the year making me think they had too many auctions where no one was bidding and they actually lost money. Or, that Louie Vuitton which aggressively protects it's brand threatened to sue them. It's true that on a day when they had a LV which every one wanted they had lots of traffic and turned a huge profit margin at the expense of the losing bidders. But analysis indicates that there were plenty of days that the interest just wasn't there and they lost money if they really purchased a new bag at retail and shipped it for the winning bid plus the price of all the purchased bids. Now that they are gone so is their guarantee that the goods were original. There is NO contact information on the site at all. I think this story deserves a follow up about what really happened to them. Max Loren has been down since the first of the year making me think they had too many auctions where no one was bidding and they actually lost money. Or, that Louie Vuitton which aggressively protects it’s brand threatened to sue them. It’s true that on a day when they had a LV which every one wanted they had lots of traffic and turned a huge profit margin at the expense of the losing bidders. But analysis indicates that there were plenty of days that the interest just wasn’t there and they lost money if they really purchased a new bag at retail and shipped it for the winning bid plus the price of all the purchased bids. Now that they are gone so is their guarantee that the goods were original. There is NO contact information on the site at all. I think this story deserves a follow up about what really happened to them.

]]> By: JB http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/12/02/max-loren-designer-auctions-clever-or-cruel/comment-page-1/#comment-4986 JB Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:29:14 +0000 http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/?p=4860#comment-4986 I don't care if someone gets a deal or not, what about the hundreds of other victims? I agree, how do we know there isn't a shell agent or multiple insider sniper bidding to increase the auctions. This is a shell game and I hope that someone will put an end to it before hundreds if not thousands of consumers get taken, especially desperate woman who think they are going to win an expensive purse for $2.63. I don’t care if someone gets a deal or not, what about the hundreds of other victims? I agree, how do we know there isn’t a shell agent or multiple insider sniper bidding to increase the auctions. This is a shell game and I hope that someone will put an end to it before hundreds if not thousands of consumers get taken, especially desperate woman who think they are going to win an expensive purse for $2.63.

]]> By: Geno http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/12/02/max-loren-designer-auctions-clever-or-cruel/comment-page-1/#comment-4981 Geno Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:50:32 +0000 http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/?p=4860#comment-4981 Good for you, <b>Laurie</b>, but my math was in no way provided as proof that it is <i>the winner</i> that pays all this money. The calculations were answering the question "How much would <i>Max Loren actually get</i> for this “lowest price” item?" Good for you, Laurie, but my math was in no way provided as proof that it is the winner that pays all this money. The calculations were answering the question “How much would Max Loren actually get for this “lowest price” item?”

]]> By: Laurie http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/12/02/max-loren-designer-auctions-clever-or-cruel/comment-page-1/#comment-4978 Laurie Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:22:11 +0000 http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/?p=4860#comment-4978 I've been an auction winner and I can tell you that it's a hell of a deal. I bought $40 worth of bids and won my item for $2.63. All I paid was the cost of my bids and the $2.63. When you complete an auction, you simply pay for the item (which I did). When you add the cost of the item plus the amount I spent in bids, the total was $43...and got one terrific handbag. I think where the math example above breaks down is that winner is not paying for every bid...just the ones they personally submit. The auction is winning big time, but the winner is just paying for the 20 or 60 cent bids they place. I’ve been an auction winner and I can tell you that it’s a hell of a deal. I bought $40 worth of bids and won my item for $2.63. All I paid was the cost of my bids and the $2.63. When you complete an auction, you simply pay for the item (which I did). When you add the cost of the item plus the amount I spent in bids, the total was $43…and got one terrific handbag.

I think where the math example above breaks down is that winner is not paying for every bid…just the ones they personally submit. The auction is winning big time, but the winner is just paying for the 20 or 60 cent bids they place.

]]> By: Blake http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/2009/12/02/max-loren-designer-auctions-clever-or-cruel/comment-page-1/#comment-4956 Blake Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:33:47 +0000 http://www.amnavigator.com/blog/?p=4860#comment-4956 The thing is, it is so easy for these sites to run automatic bidders behind the scenes. Do you ever really know if the person who keeps outbidding you is a real person or a shill bot they've worked into their program? And the software used by these penny auction/reverse auction/entertainment auctions sites ALL have the ability to turn the robot bidders on if they so desire. I've seen many penny auctions start up and most HONEST sites do not get much bids until they get some steady traffic coming in. MaxLoren.com got something like 800 bids on their very first auction. As someone who has seen many sites like this start up I can tell you that that amount of traffic and activity on an unproven start up site is virtually unheard of. Seeing that I concluded that Maxloren uses the robot bidding to drive their items up to a certain price before anyone is allowed to win. Don't waste your time or money here. The thing is, it is so easy for these sites to run automatic bidders behind the scenes. Do you ever really know if the person who keeps outbidding you is a real person or a shill bot they’ve worked into their program? And the software used by these penny auction/reverse auction/entertainment auctions sites ALL have the ability to turn the robot bidders on if they so desire. I’ve seen many penny auctions start up and most HONEST sites do not get much bids until they get some steady traffic coming in. MaxLoren.com got something like 800 bids on their very first auction. As someone who has seen many sites like this start up I can tell you that that amount of traffic and activity on an unproven start up site is virtually unheard of. Seeing that I concluded that Maxloren uses the robot bidding to drive their items up to a certain price before anyone is allowed to win. Don’t waste your time or money here.

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